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Poster: Darrell Wright Date: Jun 9, 2005 1:19am
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: ??? Does IA accept 'fair use' content ???

Several other sites accepted a video I have on the internet titled--"How will I laugh tomorrow...when i can't even smile today." However, any time I have uploaded to this site, it is always rejected becuase it contains scenes from the second season of buffy:the vampire slayer. Everytime it has been uploaded here, the staff has instructed me that it is not fair use content. I believe the staff can figure out what videos are appropriate to be distributed through their site better than anyone ranting about it in the forums.

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Poster: Madhavananda Date: Jun 9, 2005 7:29am
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: ??? Does IA accept 'fair use' content ???

What's that about ranting? Discussing what's fair use qualifies for ranting?

After looking up some of your older posts, I guess I'll end my participation in this thread right here and right now. To avoid ranting.

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This post was modified by Madhavananda on 2005-06-09 14:29:31

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Poster: LastChance Date: Jun 9, 2005 6:18am
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: ??? Does IA accept 'fair use' content ???

Errr... What MY previous posts? Its the same upload I'm talking about fair use / bad naming convention. But I haven't bugged anyone regarding fair use until now. I'd actually started the first "process" shortly after posting my second query, getting your resopnse, and reading up a bit more on "fair use".
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I've put a note in the file description pointing out to currators this content might be an issue, and just contact me if it won't fly.
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To ME its really fair use, primarily because I read (after your response) that news footage is given greater lee-way then fictional content. Of course I want it to go up on IA, so its kinda hard to be objective. I don't have any friends familiar with what is fair use, so Daryll's notion of asking IA to review it seems reasonable.
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Its not like the video has (c) footage hidden between frames 4327-4355... its consistent the whole way thru. If its no-good they'll know quick.
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For any currators reading this, items in question are...
120551 - Please deprecate/kill. I can't metatag.
120865 - The fair/notfair-use-content in question.
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-LC

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Poster: Madhavananda Date: Jun 9, 2005 7:31am
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: ??? Does IA accept 'fair use' content ???

Errr... What MY previous posts?

No, I am talking about the person who started speaking (ranting?) about ranting in the forums.

(Re-reading the thread, I notice he was not actually asking anything - edited to reflect that.)

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This post was modified by Madhavananda on 2005-06-09 14:31:48

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Poster: Darrell Wright Date: Jun 10, 2005 4:00am
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: ??? Does IA accept 'fair use' content ???

Look Madhavana,

I have seen this question listed in the forum hundreds if not thousands of times. Everytime the question is asked, it usually ends up starting an argument like you are trying to start with me now. That is simply why I told the the person originally asking the question to upload his or her video to the site and if the curiators do not feel it is fair use they will delete it. Let the archive decide what they think is best for their site and leave the argument at that.

As a final question for you: "Do you think that the internet archive wants to get sued for placing a video on their site that might not fit into the fair use category?" I think not. That is why their staff carefully regulates what is contributed to their site. If you don't believe me; attempt to upload some type of copyrighted material to this site and watch how fast they reject it.



This post was modified by Darrell Wright on 2005-06-10 11:00:57

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Poster: Madhavananda Date: Jun 10, 2005 4:14am
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: ??? Does IA accept 'fair use' content ???

If I post some general guidelines and a link on what is considered fair use, I really don't consider that ranting or an attempt to start an argument.

I've seen entries that have been admitted to the archive that are in violation of copyright laws and a far cry from fair use. (I've reported them.) This leads me to think not everything is reviewed that carefully.

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Poster: Darrell Wright Date: Jun 10, 2005 7:40am
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: ??? Does IA accept 'fair use' content ???

Constantly nagging someone about his or her opinion is considered starting an argument in my book. All that I did was give the person who originally asked the question an answer, but you are attempting to start trouble. I bet you are also the same jerk that kept e-mailing me and rating my videos stating that you were going to attempt to shut down this site.

Just for laughs why don't you upload some video to this site that is a direct violation of all copyright laws and see if they will accept it.

I know that they won't. I have had a handful of videos rejected from this site that other amateur video sites have accepted one of those was my video "How Will I Laugh Tomorrow...When I Can't Even Smile today."

The internet archive stated that the video was a violation of the fair use agreement because the video consisted of scenes from the second season of Buffy: The Vampire Slayer. However, VideoArt.net accepted this video and even waived their fee that most artists are asked to pay for distributing works on their site because they thought it was a great music video. The video is also available at playbackvideo.com and was one time available at both Buffyverse.com and thunderbay.indymedia.org. Every site the video has been at never received any complaints about legal issues and has done well.

See for yourself.

http://www.videoart.net/home/artists/SearchResults.cfm?category_id=2&KeyWord=Darrell+Wright&Collection=ArtistCollection&Go=Go

It is also probably because of people constantly gripping about fair use issue that the archive has became filled with boring test films such as the stairs.

Leave the issue alone and let the internet archive decide what they think is fair. I have a bigger production film to finish and do not have time to continue arguing with you anyways.

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Poster: Madhavananda Date: Jun 10, 2005 8:31am
Forum: opensource_movies Subject: Re: ??? Does IA accept 'fair use' content ???

Now that was a humorous reply. Masters of entertainment, aren't we. It's been a pleasure.

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